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Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-03-11

Please review the draft article summary. Also, comments are welcome on the floating caption. On most browsers, if you move the cursor over the image, after a few seconds a caption will be displayed. Walter Siegmund 17:29, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

On by browser (IE7), the photo floats off the right-hand edge of the screen and the text doesn't wrap. Tom Sponheim 17:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've tested it on several browsers now including IE7 and it appears to work properly. I fixed Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-03-04, too.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-03-18

I nominate Water pasteurization. Tom Sponheim 16:44, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks like a good article to me. A colorful or striking image of a pot of boiling water would be nice. Perhaps Brit's image at the focus of the parabolic cooker would serve. Walter Siegmund 17:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Take a look at these photos and see if you can find a good one. Tom Sponheim 20:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Numbers 5, 99 and 100 look good to me. What is the license on these images? Walter Siegmund 22:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
We can use them freely. Will you upload them and add them to the article? Thanks! Tom Sponheim 23:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Does that mean Template:PD or some other license? Thanks. Walter Siegmund 01:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Template:PD. The pictures were taken by Bob Metcalf who is one of the founders of SCI. Tom Sponheim 05:04, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I put it in the queue. If we decide to use a different article (Beth and Brit haven't commented), it is easy to change. Walter Siegmund 22:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Preventable waterborne diseases are responsible for approximately 80% of all illnesses and deaths in the developing world. Wow. I suggest we lead with this sentence. I'll rework the summary a bit, if you don't mind.
But thinking like a Wikipedian for a minute, it'd be nice to have a source for this claim. Anyone know where it comes from? http://www.unescap.org/esid/hds/subcommittee/eng/HDS_1E.pdf (a very interesting article) says "An estimated 1.7 million people in developing countries die annually from diseases linked to unsafe water and sanitation and poor hygiene (Wagstaff, 2002)." so the figure of 2 million for children dying each year might be too high, esp since the 1.7 million includes unsafe sanitation and poor hygiene, not just water borne diseases. Later it says "Among the 10 leading mortality risks in high-mortality developing countries, unsafe water, sanitation and hygiene ranked second, while indoor smoke from solid fuels ranked fourth (WHO, 2002b)." And "Globally, water-related causes account for approximately 80 per cent of all communicable diseases (Ford, 2004)." Unfortunately I can't track down the (Ford, 2004) reference. The cited URL doesn't work. Assuming we believe his number, though, it's 80% of communicable diseases, not 80% of all illnesses and death. The (Wagstaff, 2002) reference is easy to find: http://www.who.int/docstore/bulletin/pdf/2002/bul-2-E-2002/80(2)97-105.pdf but if it contains the 1.7 million figure, I can't find it. Ah- here we go. The World Bank says "Approximately 4 billion cases of diarrhea per year cause 2.2 million deaths, most-1.7 million-children under the age of five, about 15% of all under 5 deaths in developing countries." But this is for "inadequate water, sanitation and hygiene", and, they go on to say, "Improved hygiene (hand washing) and sanitation (latrines) have more impact than drinking water quality on health outcomes....Most endemic diarrhea is not water-borne, but transmitted from person to person by poor hygiene practices." So what percentage of the deaths can be attributed to bad water per se? Hard to know, but it sounds like less than half, and maybe far less than that. So it seems to me the figures in the first paragraph are pretty suspect, and (without spending a lot more time) I don't have other figures to use instead.
So my roundabout conclusion is that perhaps we should not use this as a featured article until we can get the numbers validated/corrected. I'll copy the above paragraph to the Talk page for the article. Beth Ogilvie 00:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Beth, I'm sorry I missed your comments here. I think it would be fine to lead with the sentence that you suggest above, but it would be good if water pasteurization, the article topic, could be included somehow. Perhaps, "Water pasteurization, a heating process, can prevent waterborne diseases that are responsible for approximately 80% of all illnesses and deaths in the developing world." Walter Siegmund 23:56, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-03-25

I nominate Heat-retention cooking. Tom Sponheim 00:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Works for me! I added a link I found thru the archive for how to make a cooking basket that starts "Collect some banana leaves..." Related to this, though, I have a small quibble about the "Related Technologies" section of the Main Page. Some of the topics under Related Technologies are "Other things to do with a Solar Cooker" (canning, drying, pasteurizing) while others are truly "Related technologies (not solar)" (heat retention cooking, and we should have cheap high efficiency stoves as well). Beth Ogilvie 00:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-01

First, a meta suggestion: that we generally alternate technology or science articles with human interest stories.

There's an inspiring article on the State Department's webpage (of all places) that they more or less copied from SCI: Solar Cooking Solution Changing Lives in Kenya. I don't think it's on the wiki yet, but we could find the original on one of the SCI sites and move it over. I apologize for offering this suggestion and then running off, but a few times a year I have to do some paid work, and this is one of them. Beth Ogilvie 16:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How dare you spend any time supporting yourself by doing work for money! Don't worry, we understand. I have a link to the State Dept. article here: Kenya#Articles_in_the_media
Tom Sponheim 17:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've changed the FA on the main page. Thanks for the nomination. It is Cooking in Kenya (in analogy with Cooking at high latitudes. If you don't like the title, please change it. The original title doesn't satisfy my reading of Wikipedia:WP:NAME.
Please review Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-01. I wonder if Cooking in Kenya should be moved to Solar cooking in Kenya and Cooking at high latitudes to Solar cooking at high latitudes? Walter Siegmund 04:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
The article looks great. I agree that we should make the two name changes. Thanks! Tom Sponheim 16:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I made the name changes and changed the FA to this article. Thank you for the comments. Walter Siegmund 02:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-08

How about "Make a solar cooker in 5 minutes". I haven't been working on the wiki, but (in my spare time :) I have been solar cooking. My box cooker is working quite well - thanks again for the help - you should have tasted the parsnip and apple soup - so I decided to try a funnel cooker. I made Kathy Dahl-Bredine's Windshield Shade Solar Funnel Cooker. I borrowed the windshield shade from the car, used 3 pieces of sticky-back velcro I had lying around, and 5 minutes later: voilà - a solar cooker. I had to go to the store to get oven bags. My first experiment didn't go too well, either because I wasn't there to keep turning the cooker or because it got windy, so the next time I put a turkey bag over the chicken bag over the pot, and I was there to turn it, and my white bean & sweet potato soup came out great. (Tasted like baked beans, but with healthy sweet potatos taking the place of evil pork fat.) Considering how many hours I've put into box cookers, it was amazing. Once again, the article is not on the wiki (sorry) but shouldn't take long to port. I love the current featured article, btw (Solar cooking in Kenya). --Beth Ogilvie 23:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouraging news and good comments and suggestions. I look forward to seeing "Make a solar cooker in 5 minutes". Walter Siegmund 17:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I've copied Kathy's cooker plan to the wiki and created the featured article insert. Feel free to spiff it up. --Beth Ogilvie 22:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

FA template

Walt, what template do you use for starting the featured article insert page? I couldn't find it in the Template namespace. Maybe we need a help page on how to do a featured article. --Beth Ogilvie 22:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I hadn't yet made a template. I copied and pasted the text from the previous one. The new, just-created template is {{This week's featured article}}. Walter Siegmund 23:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
You've made this page look gorgeous, btw. --Beth Ogilvie 01:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words. It was blatant borrowing from WP, I confess. I like very much being able to see the final format of the FA summary before it "goes live". It is good to have the next one right below the current one. That makes errors more obvious. Also, casual reader may be more likely to notice problems.
WP puts the link to the article at the beginning of the FA summary. That eliminates editing the FA name in the heading above the summary on the Main Page, a potential source of error. We might want to consider making that change. See Wikipedia:Main Page.

Arrow navigation

I wonder what would be required to add arrow navigation for someone who wants to look at other featured article summaries, e.g., forward and backward arrows? Walter Siegmund 23:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Would we want the navigation arrows showing up on the Main Page? Maybe we would add them after the article moves off the Main Page. I did prev/next arrows in the Compendium (see Compendium Introduction for an example) using {{Previous-Next}}. It was tedious but not hard. --Beth Ogilvie 01:12, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
You might want to look at how navigation among the FA summaries is done on WP. They have a calendar and template. It may be hard to adapt for our use, though, since we have weekly FAs and they have daily ones.
I'll look at what you did in the Compedium. Thanks for the link. I was thinking of arrows on the FA summary pages that would not be transcluded (<noinclude>). They would allow the reader to view the previous or next summary. Walter Siegmund 01:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I tried navigation arrows at Solar_Cooking:This_week's_featured_article/2007-04-15. I think a better solution may exist. Walter Siegmund 03:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Try it now. --Beth Ogilvie 19:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Automating FA updates

I've been thinking a bit about automating the updating of the FA on the main page. The magic word CURRENTWEEK would allow us to automate the updating of the featured article. They would be renamed [[Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/{{CURRENTYEAR}}-W{{CURRENTWEEK}}]] which would display as Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2014-W35. The link on Main Page would be {{Solar Cooking:This week's featured article//{{CURRENTYEAR}}-W{{CURRENTWEEK}}}} and the article summary displayed will change when the Wikipedia:UTC week changes. The article link will need to be moved from the header above the summary to the first line of the summary, but that is a minor change.

It is somewhat unfortunate that CURRENTWEEK is only partially compliant with Wikipedia:ISO week date because it is the number of the current week (1-53) with no leading zero. Among other disadvantages, the names won't sort into chronological order without special effort. The current names are Wikipedia:ISO 8601 compliant.

Another disadvantage is that most people think in dates, not week number. If in August, you want to look at Solar Cooking in Kenya, you might remember that it was TWFA around 2007-04-01, but not 2007-W14.

Wikipedia's scheme adapted directly to Solar Cooking would put {{Solar Cooking:Today's featured article/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}}} on the Main Page. I would suggest changing that to be ISO 8601 compliant. Since with our current resources, generating a daily featured article would be a strain and distraction, we would likely redirect all weekdays but one to the article summary for that week and generate one FA a week as we do currently. That is certainly feasible and easily accommodates more frequent updates as resources increase, as I hope will occur. It adds a bit of clutter (all the redirects). A redirect notice will be displayed most days at the top of the article summary that most readers will likely ignore. Some readers may wonder why today's featured article is often the same as yesterday's. Perhaps it would be better to still call it "This week's featured article".

Comments are welcome. I'm not sure that we should make any changes. The current system is not very burdensome and doesn't have a troublesome error rate, in my opinion. Walter Siegmund 01:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Keeping the KISS principle in mind, I like what we have, for now. Later when we have thousands of articles and dozens of admins (:-)), it'll be worth automating. One advantage of the current system is if we're all distracted or overloaded, and don't produce a new feature article on schedule, the old one just sits there for a few extra days. No big deal. The only reasons I was thinking it'd be nice to have a little help page for how to do the FA is (a) not being able to find the template, and (b) noticing that the summary for Solar cooking in Kenya didn't get added to Solar Cooking:This week's featured article. And that page will now need a little more tweaking each time the FA changes. (Again no big deal, but a little reminder would be nice.) --Beth Ogilvie 19:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughts. I added Help:Featured article. It would simplify updates to Main Page and Solar Cooking:This week's featured article if we were to move the wikilinked article name from the heading above the article summary to the first line of the article. Walter Siegmund 00:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Let's do it. I like having the title in the heading, but it's a small thing to give up to make the Main Page update process less dependent on human beans doing the right thing every week. --Beth Ogilvie 17:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
The new arrows are nice. However, they complicate Template:This week's featured article because we don't want the arrows to appear on the Main Page. I solved the problem by using <includeonly> to disable <noinclude> upon the initial transclusion of the template by the article summary. The appearance of the arrows is prevented by <noinclude> upon the subsequent transclusion by Main Page. Walter Siegmund 00:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Clever. --Beth Ogilvie 17:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-15

Please nominate articles here...

This is a very interesting article! I'd like to have one of these. It will make a great FA. I suggest, though, that we alternate technical articles with human centered ones, since spreading solar cooking is at least as much sociology as it is technology. I don't have something in mind, though. Suggestions, anyone? --Beth Ogilvie 21:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree. It is suitable. If we get a good human centered nomination in the next day, or so, I'll move it to the next week FA nom heading. Otherwise, we'd better go with this one. Walter Siegmund 20:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
SolaReflex Pyramid is ready to go, I think, but please look it over. How is the name change article coming? Walter Siegmund 06:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The name change article won't be ready until later this afternoon. Thanks for setting things up! Tom Sponheim 17:05, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead with SolaReflex Pyramid. I was uncomfortable waiting too long for the undate. Also, I doesn't seem necessary to rush the name change article. Walter Siegmund 18:28, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-22

Please nominate articles here... (and note that we don't have one for Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-15 yet. --Beth Ogilvie 17:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC))

Are we going with the name change article? If not, we need at least one other nominee. Thanks. Walter Siegmund 04:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the name change article with mention of the PHP forums. I'll get this up tomorrow for you all to comment on and improve. Tom Sponheim 04:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
That would be splendid. (I apologize for the last edit summary. I don't know how that got pasted into the summary box.) Thank you. Walter Siegmund 06:01, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

We're not quite ready for the name change so we've gone with Flow-through pasteurization for this week. --Beth Ogilvie 01:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-04-29

Name change is in the queue again. See Solar Cooking Archive Wiki and Forum:Changing the wiki's name. --Beth Ogilvie 01:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-05-06

Solar Fryer is pretty impressive. --Beth Ogilvie 19:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Solar Fryer is fine with me. It would appeal to a little different demographic than some of the other recent FAs, or so I might imagine. Walter Siegmund 05:28, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I made a summary for Solar Fryer. Please review it before it goes live this Saturday. Walter Siegmund 03:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-05-13

Please nominate articles here...

Any suggestions? I think human interest is next. Walter Siegmund (talk) 05:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Mike Pool says "I want to thank everyone allowing me to be a featured article story. I think Joseph Odey would be nice as a human interest story. The picture looks great as well." I concur. Beth Ogilvie 20:24, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Joseph Odey looks good to me. I created a summary at Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-05-13. Edits and corrections are welcome. Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-05-20

Please nominate articles here... I will be happy to write something about the crab legs. Where would I put the article? Mike Pool 23:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)Mike Pool

I mentioned an illustration in seafood at User talk:Mike Pool, so I think seafood has been nominated. It is mostly illustrations, albeit appetizing ones. Also, I don't know whether it could be cooked in a box or panel cooker. I like the idea of an FA with a high resolution and appealing image of solar cooked food, though. Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Presumably it could be cooked in a box or panel cooker, but it would be steamed rather than browned. Let's do it. Beth Ogilvie 14:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think seafood is that great of an article. I think Patricia McArdle would be much better. Tom Sponheim 17:59, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I like very much the idea of featuring a recipe or cooking article with an appealing illustration of solar cooked food before too long. But, as Tom points out, seafood doesn't really have much text to go with the illustration. Patricia McArdle has excellent content, but the illustration is not very compelling. Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Let's go with Patricia McArdle for next week, since tomorrow's the day. I remember reading this article - wasn't it in the newsletter? And I thought of her yesterday when I picked up an empty cigarette box that was littering our street... As for seafood, I think an article with mostly pictures is okay. It could even be entirely pictures. What about making a gallery page of solar cooked food (pics with at least moderate resolution)? It could have the seafood and whatever other decent pics we have. Coconino put some pics on the Europe and North America discussion forum that could perhaps be used. (I've never been sure what the copyright implications are of posting pictures to the forums.) We'd link the page on Recipes. Someday, when we have a decent picture of each of the topics on Recipes we could switch the recipe index to a gallery instead of the dull list it has now. I'm sorry I can't volunteer for this little project, though - I'm booked for now. Beth Ogilvie 14:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-05-27

As a counterpoint to Mike's very large, very heavy cooker, we could show the CookSack which weighs ~6 oz (not counting the pot). Only problem is we don't have an article yet - just a photo - and not a very high res one at that. The webpage has a slightly better one (36K vs 6K). Beth Ogilvie 14:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Is CookSack ready? If not, How solar cookers work might be suitable. Walter Siegmund (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Nope. How solar cookers work is fine with me. We should do Health and safety sometime too. Beth Ogilvie 15:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
How solar cookers work looks good to me. Tom Sponheim 17:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-06-03

Please nominate articles here...

I nominate Devos cooker. Tom Sponheim 19:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I made Devos cooker the featured article; no other nominations were received. Walter Siegmund (talk) 23:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-06-10

That article might be a bit too similar to the 3/11/07 article on Darfur refugees (though it's such an important project that some repetition might be good).
  • Ajay Chandak is another possibility with a little reworking. I'm fine with either though. You decide, Walt. Tom Sponheim 17:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I reworked the article. Please look it over. I'm not sure what to do with the last paragraph.Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:29, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I incorporated Prof. Chandak's changes (from email), and created a summary article. I'll put it on the main page in a couple of hours (if someone else doesn't do so). Walter Siegmund (talk) 14:35, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-06-17

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-06-17.

Integrated cooking method would be great. Tom Sponheim 17:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-06-24

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-06-24.

How about Tips and tricks? Tom Sponheim 03:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-07-01

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-07-01.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-07-08

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-07-08.

Thanks for the nomination. In my opinion, promoting solar cooking is not suitable as it stands because it does not contain an illustration. Perhaps one could be found? Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
The week ended with no consensus. No feature article was chosen for the period. Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-07-15

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-07-15.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-07-22

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-07-22.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-07-29

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-08-05

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-08-05.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-08-12

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-08-19

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-08-26

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-08-26.

I nominate Solar Connect Association. The photo I just added is really worth having everyone see. Tom Sponheim 19:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
That is a good illustration. Thanks for the nomination. Walter Siegmund (talk) 01:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-09-02

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-09-02.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-09-09

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-09-09.

  • No articles nominated; no article featured.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-09-16

  • No articles nominated; no article featured.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-09-23

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-09-23.

  • No articles nominated; no article featured.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-10-21

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-10-21.

  • Fresnel reflectors; a high resolution image was added to the article recently.
  • No comments; no article featured.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-10-28

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-10-28.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2007-11-04

Please suggest an article for the week of 2007-11-04.

Solar Cooking:This week's featured article/2008-08-03

Please suggest an article for the week of 2008-08-03.

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